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Questions: 1. Is Jagex able to track and chain ban all muling accounts regardless if items were traded or drop traded, associated or not? 2. Is RWT the bots' GP profit daily better than weekly/monthly? 3. What about stockpiling items/GP versus selling profit daily? 4. What steps does one need to take to drop-trade/person-to-person trade between said number of accounts to remain nearly anonymous? Please answer these (4) four questions in order or to the best of your ability. Below are a few examples I came up with but might not be close to effective at all so feel free to ignore me haha! Example 1: 10 bots with botted items ready to stockpile... trade to > 1 legit, clean account and stockpile on latter account. (what if Jagex knows who picks up/drops what in cache? see Example 2...) Example 2: 10 bots with botted items ready to stockpile... drop trade to > 1 throwaway... trade 10%+/- of each botted item to 10+/- different throwaways that stockpile botted items. (this just spreads out the items into multiple stockpile accounts, thus reducing chain ban? See Example 3 for similar method...) Example 3: 10 bots with botted items ready to stockpile... drop trade to > 1 throwaway then DROP-TRADE 10%+/- of each botted item to > 10+/- different throwaways that stockpile botted items. (this method should be best given that Examples 2 and 1 don't work but still just a question as are all 'Example _" paragraphs...) The above examples won't work (most likely) but I figured I'd start a thread that has some basic questions in it and see where people consider their method... From one muling noob to the interwebs I say: Please help...

Fluffee's Ultimate Guide to Botting: Part Four - All About Mules Welcome once again to Fluffee's Ultimate Guide to botting series. If you haven't already read part one or part two, please do so here ([Tutorial] Fluffee's Ultimate Guide to Botting: Part One - Account Creation and Management), here ([Tutorial] Fluffee's Ultimate Guide to Botting: Part Two - All About Proxies) or here ([Tutorial] Fluffee's Ultimate Guide to Botting: Part Three - All About Servers ). --What are mules?-- Well in the real world a mule is an animal, another name for a donkey actually. However, in the RuneScape world, a mule is a slang term for an account used to store excess gold/items. They were commonly used in the dicing days, when the hosts would RWT their gold, and they wanted to make sure they didn't lose everything should something bad happen. And as RWT bans began to rise, mules became a common tool for botters as well. --Why should I use a mule?-- Mules allow you to have a safe place to keep all your botted gold, so you don't lose it when JaGeX cracks down on your bots. That way, when you wake up one day and get that dreaded account disabled message you don't have to be too worried, as all that GP your bots worked hard for is safe and secure on your favorite mule account. With the help of a mule you've managed to thwart JaGeX again, and that's always a bonus. --Can mules get banned?-- The quick and short answer is yes. If you're not careful, and you're lazily just trading all of your GP from your bots to your mule JaGeX can easily track the trade history and ban your mule as well just for having contact with bots. Want proof of this? Ask dicer Fishy what happened to all his accounts when JaGeX decided they were sick of his rampant RWT. He lost all of his accounts, mules included. Alright, so maybe Fishy is a bit of an extreme case but it does show that yes mules can be banned, and being lazy with trading only makes that easier. Luckily for you, I have some discrete methods to help reduce the chances of JaGeX cracking down on your mules which will help you keep that precious GP safe. --Sidebar-- Alrighty, before we continue I want to be perfectly clear here and I really want to avoid someone flaming the thread because "they've never had a mule banned". I'm not saying that you will be banned by directly trading gold from your bots to your mule. Heck, some people even sell gold from their mules without issue. What I am saying is that a ban is possible by directly trading your gold from your bots to your mule. These methods that I am going to show you are methods that will help reduce the ban rates, and just because you haven't revived a ban with your lazy methods does not mean you will not receive a ban. With that out of the way, let's get into this. --Should I level stats on my mule?-- If you have to ask, the answer is probably yes. Let's make the assumption that JaGeX knows what everyone's bank is worth, and if that's the case (which considering they own the game, isn't a super far fetched assumption) wouldn't it be rather odd if a fresh account with absolutely no stats has tonnes of GP. That alone would make JaGeX suspicious as how would you possibly have accumulated that amount of money. Therefore, I would recommend you take some time and train up your account a little bit. You don't need any outrageous stats, just enough to make you blend in to the general population of RuneScape. --Should I quest on my mule?-- Once again, if you have to ask the answer is probably yes. Again, we're looking to blend in here and most people who play RuneScape do at least a couple of quests it's just the standard practice. Quests such as Cook's Assistant, Doric's Quest and Goblin Diplomacy can be done in like 15 minutes total assuming you start with the items. As well, getting the 7 quest points (which you will from those quests) allows you to trade anything from an F2P account; which saves you membership fees. --How do I trade GP safely to and from my mules?-- I think this is probably the most interesting part of the tutorial, and for many the part you're probably going to skip to. I'll be going over 4 methods in this tutorial, ranging from simple, higher risk methods to challenging low risk methods. It's up to you which method you chose, but it's nice to have options. Method 1: Straight Trading [Risk: High, Difficulty: Easy] This method is what you're probably using today, it's the quickest method to move gold from one account to another. Just login to both your bot and your mule, then right click and trade your GP over. It's fast, it's efficient, and it definitely gets the job done. However, we can only assume it provides JaGeX with an easy way to track down your mule as there will be a long log of trading history between the accounts. As a result of this, I wouldn't recommend this method, unless you are layering your mules. What this means is that you have all your bots trading a few mules, and then those mules trading one main mule. Even with that setup I still wouldn't advise straight trading your main mule as to me, that's just too obvious. However, it is the easiest method and you might prefer easy over safe. A bonus tip, if you chose to straight trade throw some junk in the trades. Hopefully this will help keep JaGeX off your back. Method 2: Dueling (Staking) GP [Risk: Medium, Difficulty: Medium] This method is rather straight forward, much like straight trading this method just involves dueling your mule to transfer the gold. It is a bit of a pain to do, as you have to walk both your accounts to the Duel Arena, but it should keep everything on the down low. If you don't want to do a lot of work, but want a bit of extra security then I advise this. Just request to duel your mule, stake all the gold/items you would like to transfer over, then have your mule kill the bot; simple as that. If you really want to save time you can have your bot just forfeit the duel however I wouldn't promote it. If you're already committed to going through the process of dueling you may as well see it through and finish the duel. Method 3: Falador Party Room [Risk: Medium/High, Difficulty: Medium] This method is actually kinda fun. Essentially, run your bots to the falador party room and have them deposit all of their items in the drop chest. Then, start the party, and on your mule run around and pop all of the balloons you can find. When the balloons pop, some will drop some of the items from the chest, quickly pick them up and keep popping! By the time the balloons are done falling, you should have all of the items! Now, due to the nature of the Falador Party Room there are some things you need to note. 1. Other players can come in and start popping balloons, thus stealing all your hard earned items. So make sure you do this on a low population world. 2. If you don't pick up the items after popping, you can lose the items. 3. If you add more then 50k on F2P, NPC's in Falador announce that something is going on in the Party Room, so you really do need to be fast. 4. It costs 10k to pull the lever and start the party. Overall, this is a fun method and surely cannot be traced. However, it's quite risky and you could have some guy come in and pop a balloon to find all your GP sitting there on the ground. Method 4: Grand Exchange Money Laundering [Risk: Medium, Difficulty: High] This method is extremely unknown. I actually attempted to google this, and found one post about it; so you're welcome TRiBot This method was popular back when Free Trade was removed, and RWT companies needed to move gold across multiple accounts. Essentially, what you'll be doing with this method is finding an extremely low volume item on the Grand Exchange, and then buying it on your bots for a ridiculous price, while selling it on your mule thus transferring the money from one account to another via the Grand Exchange. Essentially, if there's no offers for an item (I'll use a Law Rune as an example) the lowest offer regardless of the price, is the first offer to go. So let's say on the Grand Exchange nobody in OSRS is selling Law Runes, and I mean no one. So on your mule, after you confirm nobody's selling Law Runes, you go ahead and sell 1 Law Rune for 10M gold. As there is no other Law Runes being sold, the only sell offer in the Grand Exchange is your offer, and therefore it is at the top of the queue. Then, on your bot with the gold, buy the Law Rune for 10M gold. Again, as there's only one sell offer (the one put in by your mule) you instantly buy that one Law Rune for 10M gold, your bot now has one really expensive Law Rune and your mule has 10M gold, and the accounts never even saw each other in game; making this the best method for laundering money in RuneScape to date. Now, due to the nature of the Grand Exchange there's something you need to note: 1. This can be flawless, if nobody else is buying/selling your item. 2. Sharing items here on the thread, or with your friends is a terrible idea, as that ruins the method. 3. You can lose your money, or atleast some of it, if someone starts selling your item while you're trading. And that about brings this segment of the guide to the end, to overview, we've covered what a mule is, should you use a mule, should you level/quest a mule and then how to discreetly transfer money to your mule. I hope you've enjoyed, and learned something from this lengthy guide, I apologize for the delay, but these guides really do take work. I do have one small question for you guys. As I've written four of these guides (with a total of somewhere around 8000 words), I'm running out of ideas. But I know you guys are not our of ideas. If there's anything you need/want to know more about, feel free to post it here or shoot me a message. And if I do chose your idea, it'll be fully credited when the guide is released! Thanks for reading everyone, and I hope you enjoyed another segment of Fluffee's Ultimate Guide to Botting

About to sell huge amounts of osrs gold. i dont want to sell to untrusted and new buyers cuz of all the chargebacks/scams etc etc.. can anyone recomand a few TOP gold buyers ? (if you recomend someone, only do so if you had any experience with selling gold) Thank you *Edit = "not below 2$/m"

I Have been botting for quite a bit, and every time i have 2 mules that has been a lvl 3 or lvl 13-20 But never higher than that i have traded with my mules through drop trading and normal trade (sometimes with and sometimes without items) most of the times the trades were quite big, 200-400m but always get sold every week. ( The 2 Mules both have Separate IPs) There was a time when i got 15-20 bots banned every week on my home IP which was connected to my MAIN and my Mule but these still stand safe till this day. ( The Mule's method of trading was only through normal trades at the G.E even when transferring to a RWT Account ) But recently i've taken a hit every week, which is leaving me confused why suddenly most of my methods just stopped working. All IP's Were never botted on, i have taken in the consideration that MAYBE these IP's were botted on by other people and the company simply gave a Used IP but there has been quite a bit of proxies used (also from different companies) so lets speculate this around Fresh Proxies. Things i did : Transferred less than 100m between 2 accounts on 1 IP, Never botted. ( Macro Major ) Transferred less than 100m on 1 IP to another IP through drop trading, Receiver banned Never botted of Course ( Macro Major ) Transferred 200m between 2 Accounts on Different IP's through drop trading, Never botted ( Macro Major ) Transferred 80m Between 2 different IP's through normal trade with items Never botted ( Macro Major ) TWO things to Note, I DO use Tribot Client ON my Mules and always have.Except for very first accounts which was Botted and Muled on my Home IP from a while ago which is till this day not banned. My close friend only trades between 2 accounts and refreshes them within a certain amount of time but they are always on 1 IP, he doesn't get his banned but his INCREASE in wealth every week is quite small, compared to 200-300m every week. Any Advice would be very appreciated. QUICK EDIT : These are also ONLY banned AFTER the weekend.

Hello I've had a few request on how to sell gold so here a video I made last night to show.

Hey guys, with the release of my modern goldfarming guide, I'm looking for some people to give FREE COPIES to. There will be no advertising or anything, just honest copies to be given out to those who I think will be able to help me improve the guide. These people would be able to review it and give me advice, criticism and feedback etc. regarding the content of the guide so I can improve it. If you want a bit more context about my guide, I will enclose an image link to my guide thread in a spoiler (NOTE: this is only to give context to the readers if they wish, you don't have to look at it if you don't want to). The guide is free? If you fill the criteria and I deem you worthy, you can take a free copy, yes Why are you posting this here? I'm looking for people with some sort of experience in botting, not just trusted people, hence why I am posting this here in the TRiBot botting forum. I'd like to post it here because I know there are people in this forum that have the knowledge in farming that I need in somebody reviewing the guide. What do you want them to do? I want them to review it from a goldfarmers point of view, and tell me where and how I can improve. Every suggestion you give is taken on board and hopefully I will be able to implement. The guide is currently 14,000 words long, and I am always looking to make it larger and give it more information. How can I get a free copy of the guide? Basically, show me that you have some experience and knowledge in goldfarming, and you know how to run one yourself, and practises you've taken. Keep in mind, I won't be giving out a hundred free copies; I am looking for people with a lot of experience, not amateurs. I'm sure some people will be trying to get a copy of it without even having ran a large goldfarm before, hence why I am looking for the people with experience. if you think you fill this criteria, or you have any questions about the guide itself, feel free to add my skype live:rekkke or pm me here.

So I'm starting to pile up gold here pretty quickly, and I've heard people talk about rwt bans. I've never been banned for rwt but I've only worked with relatively small gold sales at a time (<30m). I have an account I'd like to use as a main to try to cover up its mule activity, I do quests on it sometimes and manually train a variety of skills in my downtime. Do you think this will have any effect on rwt bans, or is it a waste of time? Has anyone ever been banned for RWT that has some idea of how it happened? Currently my mule collects from several accounts daily, but I the trades are always less than 1m xfer each and I try to transfer more supplies to the bots in the same trade to cut down the gross transfer amount. I could xfer less to my mule and have my bots buy their own supplies but intuitively I believe trading items for gp instead of just gp for no reason is less suspicious.

Hey, what is the safest way to sell runescape gold via PayPal, without getting scammed by chargebacks. any tips and tricks guys? and am i allowed to ask for a copy of a drivers licence of the person who wants to buy gold via TRiBot forums ? i appreciate all comments (:

Hey guys, I was just wondering which of the two trade methods in the title are the least detectable by Jagex when it comes to RWT, as I recently started a bot farm and farmed 10m yesterday, but my mule immediately got banned (I was careless as the mule botted Tutorial Island, is F2P and I didn't trade anything in return for the 10m worth of items transferred, making it easily detectable by Jagex). Any suggestions would be much appreciated, thanks! -Alzimondo