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A Note on the "Detectable Client" Issue

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I have absolutely no idea if the client is detectable or not. One thing I do know is that there are TONS of people (myself included) who use TRiBot daily and do not get banned instantly. That doesn't prove anything though, as I explain at the bottom of the post. Before complaining about TRiBot, read the following speculation:

  1. Your IP might be flagged. Unlikely, I know, but possible.
  2. You might THINK that what you were doing before you started botting is something a legitimate player would do, but Jagex might think differently. It is possible that they have code that attempts to detect if someone is trying to set up a bot, before they even bot.
  3. Your payment method might be flagged (unlikely and in many cases illegal, but still possible).
  4. They might have small little things to detect if you're botting. For example, maybe loading the client with a specific world is detectable.
  5. They might have REALLY small little things to detect if you're using TRiBot in particular. You have to move your mouse to the top of the screen to press "Start Script", right? Hmm.
  6. There might be an issue with the login bot. Maybe they detect the speed that the login bot types, or that every character is typed exactly evenly.
  7. Did you supply your bot with anything from another account? That might be a flag for Jagex.
  8. What's your email? What's your password? What's your username? Could that make a difference?
  9. Did you pay on a different IP than you're botting on? That might make a difference.
  10. Did you do tutorial island on Orion or a browser, and then switch to TRiBot to start botting? It is a known fact that Jagex can detect a third party client vs a browser, and it's possible that because Orion is supported, they have code to check if you are using Orion. You might think that's a good idea to do tutorial island in the browser or using Orion, but maybe instead it just waves a flag telling Jagex "Hey! Ban me!". Who knows?
  11. TRiLeZ would have to confirm this, but TRiBot uses proxies by loading a socks proxy through the JVM. If Runescape can access the JVM (which I don't know if it can), Jagex could detect if you are using a proxy (getting the proxy from a JVM will return null if no proxy is being used).

One last thing: Jagex knows how to detect patterns, and they know how effective it is. They know that we will be trying to do the same. That is why their delayed bans are so powerful. Who knows? Maybe every single one of our accounts is flagged when we use TRiBot. However, they decide very carefully which accounts to ban as to try to throw us off course.

 

There are LOTS of things to consider here. In order to beat Jagex, we are going to have to think like Jagex. What good would adding small amounts of code to detect the client be in the long run? It wouldn't be good at all, because eventually the botting clients would fix the problem, and the bots would be back. Try to be more open minded, and think about small things that lots of botters do that real players don't.

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I think you should include how STUPIDLY SIMPLE it is to track walking patterns. When they uploaded the botting heat map, it was hilarious to see that the heat dots literally followed the path for a nature crafter on tribot to the exact tile. In WoW, I'm pretty sure they use paths to detect bots, so it wouldn't be stupid to say that jagex is doing the same.

 

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