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Scam Report - Flexx [Chargedback Payment]

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Scammer's Username: Flexx
Link to Scammer's TriBot Profile:^ 
Chat/Discussion Methods: Skype.
Chat Username(If Applicable)*: ajwillis42
Describe in detail in your words what happened: The user scammed me on a different botting community, he purchased powerleveling from me and he chargebacked after I done the services for him.
Evidence**: http://osbot.org/forum/topic/52914-

For the people that cant view the thread:

 Disputed member: tehhh1337

Thread Link: N/A

Explanation: I did multiple powerleveling services for him and they were all completed. He paid me in rsgp the first few orders but some others in usd via paypal. but he decided to chargeback his money today via his bank.(it was over a month ago since he purchased it)

 

Evidence:

Skype convo:

http://puu.sh/9nqzU/33d352c370.png

http://puu.sh/9nqok/c157405581.png

 

pp chargeback(s):

http://puu.sh/9npWB/aba771b163.png

http://puu.sh/9nqf2/3a48ca3b2d.png

 

proof its his pp:

http://puu.sh/9nqG5/a0303b3df7.png

Other: Proof of him using the same skype: d72f222b58.png

https://tribot.org/forums/topic/34427-strawsombreros-questingfirecapepowerlevelingdefender-service/?hl=ajwillis42#entry417113

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Can't even see that URL. I don't even know who you are, but I'm sure there was a reason behind it. Moral of the story is that you screwed up somehow, if I knew your username at OSB, I'd be able to tell you how. I've used PayPal numerous times on Tribot and I've never had any problems (and OSB too). Maybe you have some kind of personal vendetta against me, whatever, but I strongly suggest you get your priorities straight if you're willing to spend effort over such a petty amount (I don't have any disputes over $150 on my paypal).

 

Oh and offsite "offenses" aren't bannable on tribot. 

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Can't even see that URL. I don't even know who you are, but I'm sure there was a reason behind it. Moral of the story is that you screwed up somehow, if I knew your username at OSB, I'd be able to tell you how. I've used PayPal numerous times on Tribot and I've never had any problems (and OSB too). Maybe you have some kind of personal vendetta against me, whatever, but I strongly suggest you get your priorities straight if you're willing to spend effort over such a petty amount (I don't have any disputes over $150 on my paypal).

 

Oh and offsite "offenses" aren't bannable on tribot. 

I screwed up? You chargedback with your creditcard company a month after you bought the powerleveling service from me. I know you're the same person. And you will get punished for this don't worry. It's pretty clear you scammed, Thanks to that my PayPal is in negative balance now because of your stupid actions. Oh and I've seen multiple people getting banned for off-site scams.

 

Anyway I let it up to the moderators to decide whether they want to investigate this case or not. All I want is you banned or my money refunded.

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@Flexx

Care to respond to the evidence before further investigation is done?

You didn't really explain anything in your post.

 

I'm seeing a post by you stating a Skype username, a Skype conversation with that user stating a PayPal email address, and then chargebacks filed by that PayPal email address, what do you have to say about this?

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@Flexx

Care to respond to the evidence before further investigation is done?

You didn't really explain anything in your post.

 

I'm seeing a post by you stating a Skype username, a Skype conversation with that user stating a PayPal email address, and then chargebacks filed by that PayPal email address, what do you have to say about this?

He ordered powerleveling services from me, I can show you the whole skype convo via teamviewer since its really long

And like a month later he chargebacked me, and I filed a scam report on OSBot and he got banned for it. (And also for ban evading)

I just want my money back but then in RSGP or I would like him to get banned here, on TRiBot.

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I purchased power leveling from this user at OSB a few times, and he completed the order without any problems (or so I thought). A day or so after completing the latest order, every single account I had every gotten power leveling on from this user got banned. None of the other accounts I was using (same day, same time, same script, same location, same method). I was unable to contact the user because it appeared he was banned on OSB, but it turns out I thought he was someone else (who did the exact same service for me and didn't get the accounts banned). The reason the chargeback did not seem to appear immediately is because it can take weeks for a chargeback to go through. I have proof that I contacted the card company a day after the bans happened, and I have proof of all the accounts getting banned on the same date, and proof that the others didn't. I've been botting on old school for months, and things like this don't just happen unless there is another factor involved.

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I purchased power leveling from this user at OSB a few times, and he completed the order without any problems (or so I thought). A day or so after completing the latest order, every single account I had every gotten power leveling on from this user got banned. None of the other accounts I was using (same day, same time, same script, same location, same method). I was unable to contact the user because it appeared he was banned on OSB, but it turns out I thought he was someone else (who did the exact same service for me and didn't get the accounts banned). The reason the chargeback did not seem to appear immediately is because it can take weeks for a chargeback to go through. I have proof that I contacted the card company a day after the bans happened, and I have proof of all the accounts getting banned on the same date, and proof that the others didn't. I've been botting on old school for months, and things like this don't just happen unless there is another factor involved.

Can you please provide us with the proof then, because without that, it's all just hearsay.

 

@Flax Was your power-leveling advertised as botted or non-botted? Did you bot it, or do it by hand?

@Flexx Were you expecting the services to be done legit or botted?

 

 

@Flexx his TOS do clearly state, and I'd say if anyone is concerend about bans durring a power-leveling service, then they should check beforehand weather or not it's done by hand or automated.

 

 

I am not responsible for any bans/mutes.

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Can you please provide us with the proof then, because without that, it's all just hearsay.

 

@Flax Was your power-leveling advertised as botted or non-botted? Did you bot it, or do it by hand?

@Flexx Were you expecting the services to be done legit or botted?

 

 

@Flexx his TOS do clearly state, and I'd say if anyone is concerend about bans durring a power-leveling service, then they should check beforehand weather or not it's done by hand or automated.

It was advertised as botted. And he knew I botted it. He didn't care aslong as the accounts were done quickly.

My service thread can be found here.

In my TOS it also states that I am not responsible for any bans or mutes. 

And he agreed it, which can be found a few posts below on my service thread.

 

 

I purchased power leveling from this user at OSB a few times, and he completed the order without any problems (or so I thought). A day or so after completing the latest order, every single account I had every gotten power leveling on from this user got banned. None of the other accounts I was using (same day, same time, same script, same location, same method). I was unable to contact the user because it appeared he was banned on OSB, but it turns out I thought he was someone else (who did the exact same service for me and didn't get the accounts banned). The reason the chargeback did not seem to appear immediately is because it can take weeks for a chargeback to go through. I have proof that I contacted the card company a day after the bans happened, and I have proof of all the accounts getting banned on the same date, and proof that the others didn't. I've been botting on old school for months, and things like this don't just happen unless there is another factor involved.
 
You knew I botted it, so you took the risk. We even had a new rule where I would need to resupply the bond if it gets banned (during the service only), so you definitely knew it was botted. ;)
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It was advertised as botted. And he knew I botted it. He didn't care aslong as the accounts were done quickly.

My service thread can be found here.

In my TOS it also states that I am not responsible for any bans or mutes. 

And he agreed it, which can be found a few posts below on my service thread.

 

 

 

You knew I botted it, so you took the risk. We even had a new rule where I would need to resupply the bond if it gets banned (during the service only), so you definitely knew it was botted. ;)

 

And now he starts lying ;)

We agreed over Skype that he would cover the entire account if a ban happens. I gave him accounts, I paid extra to have him resupply the bond and re-level the account in the case of a ban. And about the evidence of accounts getting banned, I'm on really shitty internet right now and I can't really load the runescape website, give me a few hours

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I knew it was botted. We had an agreement that he would replace and re level the accounts if an account got banned. I paid extra for this. Here are the Skype logs I have on this laptop (I'll have more when I get home)

[4/27/2014 4:53:41 PM] Jack W.: hey
[4/27/2014 4:53:43 PM] Jack W.: how are they going
[4/27/2014 4:54:44 PM] Jack W.: ?
[4/27/2014 4:55:28 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: 2 of them are 65 now
[4/27/2014 4:55:38 PM] Jack W.: the two ones that were close to 65 already?
[4/27/2014 4:55:43 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: Yeah.
[4/27/2014 4:55:46 PM] Jack W.: cool
[4/27/2014 4:55:53 PM] Jack W.: im not going to log into them until the whole order is finished
[4/27/2014 4:55:56 PM] Jack W.: just to keep everything organized
[4/27/2014 4:56:01 PM] Jack W.: have u done prince ali on them?
[4/27/2014 4:56:07 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: nope
[4/27/2014 4:56:12 PM] Jack W.: ok
[4/27/2014 4:56:13 PM] Jack W.: and actualy
[4/27/2014 4:56:16 PM] Jack W.: actually
[4/27/2014 4:56:19 PM] Jack W.: what time did yu complete them at
[4/27/2014 4:56:54 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: I completed the 59 Thieving one like 5 hours ago. and the other one just lvled 65 :)
[4/27/2014 4:57:25 PM] Jack W.: oh ok
[4/27/2014 4:57:32 PM] Jack W.: i will probs use them tomorrow them
[4/27/2014 4:57:33 PM] Jack W.: then
[4/27/2014 4:57:55 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: kk
[4/27/2014 4:59:20 PM] Jack W.: how are the other accs doing
[4/27/2014 5:00:28 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: other accs are 52 thiev - 46 and 43
[4/27/2014 5:00:35 PM] Jack W.: cool
[4/27/2014 5:00:45 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: i done prince ali rescue on one acc
[4/27/2014 5:01:22 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: theres a script btw, that does that quest
[4/27/2014 5:01:26 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: on TRiBot
[4/27/2014 5:01:27 PM] Jack W.: im aware
[4/27/2014 5:01:30 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: Kk.
[4/27/2014 5:01:30 PM] Jack W.: i got banned twice with it
[4/27/2014 5:01:35 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: theres a new one out
[4/27/2014 5:01:40 PM] Jack W.: ah.
[4/27/2014 8:39:10 PM] Jack W.: how's the order going
[4/27/2014 8:49:59 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: good mate
[4/28/2014 10:44:35 AM] Jack W.: updates?
[4/28/2014 10:44:57 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: they're banned -.-
[4/28/2014 11:19:24 AM] Jack W.: -__________________-
[4/28/2014 11:19:35 AM] Jack W.: perma?
[4/28/2014 11:19:39 AM] Jack W.: or temp
[4/28/2014 11:19:48 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: perm
[4/28/2014 11:39:08 AM] Jack W.: ....so what now
[4/28/2014 2:21:27 PM] Jack W.: ??
[4/28/2014 5:12:50 PM] Jack W.: replaced yet7
[4/28/2014 5:14:18 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: ill do it soon
[4/28/2014 5:14:34 PM] Jack W.: ok cool
[4/28/2014 5:58:09 PM] Jack W.: uhm
[4/28/2014 5:58:10 PM] Jack W.: and btw
[4/28/2014 5:58:18 PM | Removed 6:00:06 PM] Jack W.: This message has been removed.
[4/28/2014 5:58:28 PM | Removed 6:00:07 PM] Jack W.: This message has been removed.
[4/28/2014 5:58:31 PM | Removed 6:00:08 PM] Jack W.: This message has been removed.
[4/28/2014 5:58:37 PM | Removed 6:00:10 PM] Jack W.: This message has been removed.
[4/28/2014 5:58:50 PM | Removed 6:00:11 PM] Jack W.: This message has been removed.
[4/28/2014 5:59:58 PM] Jack W.: ^nvm
[4/28/2014 6:03:52 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: ??
[4/28/2014 6:04:21 PM] Jack W.: way saying u might want to change ur ip
[4/28/2014 6:04:28 PM] Jack W.: if u keep getting bans that may be why
[4/28/2014 6:04:30 PM] Jack W.: unless ur using proxies
[4/28/2014 11:27:48 PM] Jack W.: hey
[4/28/2014 11:28:51 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: hi, 3 accs are up and running again now.
[4/28/2014 11:28:58 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: Changed VPS IP aswell.
[4/28/2014 11:29:03 PM] Jack W.: cool
[4/28/2014 11:29:07 PM] Jack W.: and btw
[4/28/2014 11:29:10 PM] Jack W.: how much would this cost
[4/28/2014 11:29:11 PM] Jack W.: just 1 acc
[4/28/2014 11:29:12 PM] Jack W.: [Monday, April 28, 2014 11:27 PM] Jack W.: 
 
<<< hey
i need a shorter plvling job
30 agile 30 str 30 firemaking and 30 craft :)
[4/28/2014 11:29:37 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: umm
[4/28/2014 11:30:36 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: 3m
[4/29/2014 7:48:20 AM] Jack W.: how are they going
[4/29/2014 5:50:14 PM] Jack W.: hey.
[4/29/2014 5:50:17 PM] Jack W.: Are you here?
[4/29/2014 5:50:28 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: Yeah.
[4/29/2014 5:50:31 PM] Jack W.: Hey
[4/29/2014 5:50:35 PM] Jack W.: How much would 1-60 wcing be
[4/29/2014 5:51:17 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: 3m
[4/29/2014 5:52:01 PM] Jack W.: nevermind lol
[4/29/2014 5:52:33 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: I'll do 2M then but I won't re-supply the account if it get's banned.
[4/29/2014 5:52:45 PM] Jack W.: that's ok
[4/29/2014 5:52:51 PM] Jack W.: and what is the status of the thievers
[4/29/2014 5:53:46 PM] Jack W.: ?
[4/29/2014 5:54:02 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: Banned, again.
[4/29/2014 5:54:09 PM] Jack W.: .
[4/29/2014 5:54:18 PM] Jack W.: maybe thieving isn't a good choice anymore lol
[4/29/2014 5:54:51 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: yeah 1-38 suicide thieving at mans is really high ban rate.
[4/29/2014 5:55:12 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: I even trained them to cb 30 first
[4/30/2014 9:35:07 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: Nice dude you're charging back your cash?
[4/30/2014 9:35:12 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: Idiot.
[4/30/2014 9:38:22 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: Alright I'm posting a scam report now then.
[4/30/2014 9:42:15 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: HAh you will get banned @ TRi aswell kid.
[4/30/2014 9:50:20 AM] Jack W.: Relax
[4/30/2014 9:50:27 AM] Jack W.: I'm the one who should be angry atm
[4/30/2014 9:50:30 AM] Jack W.: I cancelled them
[4/30/2014 9:50:34 AM] Jack W.: Don't jump to conclusions
[4/30/2014 9:50:37 AM] Jack W.: I just lost over 1.4k
[4/30/2014 9:51:23 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: If you canceled them then I'm sorry
[4/30/2014 9:52:52 AM] Jack W.: Check your email please
[4/30/2014 9:53:06 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: How the hell do you lose $1400
[4/30/2014 9:53:08 AM] Jack W.: It should have sent something
[4/30/2014 9:53:12 AM] Jack W.: Bought off site plvling
[4/30/2014 9:53:17 AM] Jack W.: about a month ago
[4/30/2014 9:53:27 AM] Jack W.: and he just logged into all of the accounts yesterday
[4/30/2014 9:53:32 AM] Jack W.: changed all the pws
[4/30/2014 9:53:37 AM] Jack W.: i spent 3 hours changing them back
[4/30/2014 9:53:43 AM] Jack W.: only to discover they are all banned
[4/30/2014 9:53:48 AM] Jack W.: over 140 accounts
[4/30/2014 9:54:00 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: omg :/ holy sht he gotthem all banned?
[4/30/2014 9:56:18 AM] Jack W.: Yep
[4/30/2014 9:56:34 AM] Jack W.: you have no idea what this means for me llol
[4/30/2014 9:57:31 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: I havn't received any email yet though
[4/30/2014 9:58:33 AM] Jack W.: one sec
[4/30/2014 9:58:34 AM] Jack W.: ill screenshare
[4/30/2014 9:58:39 AM] Jack W.: they are all cancelled
[4/30/2014 9:58:40 AM] Jack W.: wait an hr
[4/30/2014 9:58:50 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: kk
[4/30/2014 10:00:36 AM] Jack W.: urgh this is so brutal lol
[4/30/2014 10:58:58 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: still no email from pp tho xD
[4/30/2014 10:59:52 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: can you cancel it plz or screenshare that you canceled it
[4/30/2014 11:00:13 AM] Jack W.: yeah
[4/30/2014 11:00:14 AM] Jack W.: give me a sec
[4/30/2014 11:01:21 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: Ok.
[4/30/2014 11:01:57 AM] Jack W.: that was a very passive agressive ok
[4/30/2014 11:02:17 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: lol no
[4/30/2014 11:02:41 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: I'm not mad at all I just want to resolve it asap.
[4/30/2014 11:03:05 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: It shouldn't have happened in the first place, right?
[4/30/2014 11:03:20 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: You are Flexx from TRibot right
[4/30/2014 11:03:38 AM] Jack W.: yep
[4/30/2014 11:03:59 AM] Jack W.: ok
[4/30/2014 11:04:21 AM] Jack W.: im in class so if i hop to something school related bear with me
[4/30/2014 11:04:29 AM] Jack W.: ?
[4/30/2014 11:04:47 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: i dunno it says 'problem with playback device.'
[4/30/2014 11:05:03 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: doesnt work i think
[4/30/2014 11:05:09 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: teamview?
[4/30/2014 11:05:23 AM] Jack W.: try again
[4/30/2014 11:05:25 AM] Jack W.: u declined
[4/30/2014 11:05:28 AM] Jack W.: or
[4/30/2014 11:05:29 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: I did not
[4/30/2014 11:05:30 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: look
[4/30/2014 11:05:31 AM] Jack W.: just call me
[4/30/2014 11:05:33 AM] Jack W.: spam it
[4/30/2014 11:05:40 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: http://puu.sh/8twKi/b5e3c12e21.png
[4/30/2014 11:05:55 AM] Jack W.: try again
[4/30/2014 11:06:41 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: cant
[4/30/2014 11:06:50 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: http://puu.sh/8twOm/fe8934c5fb.png
[4/30/2014 11:07:03 AM] Jack W.: k teamview
[4/30/2014 11:07:21 AM] Jack W.: 788 653 270
[4/30/2014 11:07:30 AM] Jack W.: 494ugx
[4/30/2014 11:07:50 AM] Jack W.: all of those are cancelled
[4/30/2014 11:07:58 AM] Jack W.: ill show u what happens
[4/30/2014 11:08:32 AM] Jack W.: That action is not valid. Please try again
[4/30/2014 11:08:36 AM] Jack W.: i already cancelled it
[4/30/2014 11:08:44 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: Oooh
[4/30/2014 11:08:50 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: Okay we'll just wait what happens.
[4/30/2014 11:08:58 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: thx ill believe u
[4/30/2014 11:09:05 AM] Jack W.: it'll go away in a few hour
[4/30/2014 11:09:05 AM] Jack W.: s
[4/30/2014 11:09:11 AM] Jack W.: sorry about this
[4/30/2014 11:09:12 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: hopefully :P
[4/30/2014 11:09:14 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: im in red now
[4/30/2014 11:09:15 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: haha
[4/30/2014 11:09:22 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: $40
[4/30/2014 11:09:22 AM] Jack W.: roflll
[4/30/2014 11:09:34 AM] Jack W.: but ok listen
[4/30/2014 11:09:36 AM] Jack W.: the wierd thing is
[4/30/2014 11:09:39 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: had problems with pp earlier so i dont want it again haha
[4/30/2014 11:09:43 AM] Jack W.: none of his payments are in my paypal anymore
[4/30/2014 11:09:50 AM] Jack W.: thank god i paid with my bank
[4/30/2014 11:09:56 AM] Jack W.: i think he abused something
[4/30/2014 11:10:06 AM] Jack W.: every one of the transactions is gone
[4/30/2014 11:10:06 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: You got the money back right?
[4/30/2014 11:10:12 AM] Jack W.: not yet
[4/30/2014 11:10:15 AM] Jack W.: gonna have to call my bank
[4/30/2014 11:10:19 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: ah
[4/30/2014 11:10:31 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: u will get it back no doubt xD
[4/30/2014 11:10:41 AM] Jack W.: hopefully -_-
[4/30/2014 11:10:45 AM] Jack W.: i wonder if i can chargeback jagex lol
[4/30/2014 11:11:07 AM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: Hahaha I dont think u can
[4/30/2014 11:11:33 AM] Jack W.: i could try -_-
[4/30/2014 3:24:53 PM] Jack W.: kk
[4/30/2014 3:24:55 PM] Jack W.: all cancelled
[4/30/2014 5:27:41 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: ty
[4/30/2014 11:23:42 PM] Jack W.: btw
[4/30/2014 11:23:49 PM] Jack W.: if you could refund my order that'd be great
[4/30/2014 11:23:53 PM] Jack W.: it's a bit over time hah
[5/1/2014 4:10:18 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: Yeah is it cool if I refund you the amount of 3 accounts 1-65 Thieving in 07gp in 2 days? my mule is still banned for 2 days after that i can pay you
[5/1/2014 5:44:54 PM] Jack W.: well
[5/3/2014 3:19:23 PM] Jack W.: hey, how's the rf coming?
[5/3/2014 5:20:22 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: Hi
[5/3/2014 5:20:47 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: I can refund $18,72 now
[5/3/2014 5:20:56 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: (For the 3 accounts I did not complete)
[5/3/2014 5:24:30 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: 
Want me to sent it to that PayPal Email?
[5/3/2014 5:25:15 PM] Jack W.: yep
[5/3/2014 5:27:16 PM] ☺ 325i/Target  「Sponsor」: Sent.
[5/3/2014 5:27:22 PM] Jack W.: :)
[5/6/2014 7:49:06 PM] Jack W.: Hi, I created a new Skype, if you've ever talked to me feel free to add my new one: 
>jack.williams871<
 
if you don't even know who i am please don't re-add me, trying to keep my new Skype contact list clean
[5/20/2014 4:22:47 PM] ' Target  [120+ Feedbacks]: ~ Selling RuneScape bonds 1M 07gp each CONTACT ME!
 
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[6/19/2014 7:32:23 AM] ' Target  [150+ Feedbacks]: Hey faggot
[6/21/2014 3:12:01 PM] Jack W.: hi
[6/21/2014 3:30:10 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: y u charged back
[6/22/2014 2:31:01 PM | Removed 2:42:42 PM] ' Target  [180+ Feedbacks]: This message has been removed.
[7/7/2014 10:35:46 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: So you still going to refund me or what?
[7/7/2014 10:37:13 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: https://tribot.org/forums/topic/37578-scam-report-flexx-chargedback-payment/
[7/8/2014 10:06:57 AM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: Dont worry kid you'll be banned soon
[7/8/2014 9:19:21 PM] Jack W.: lol
[7/8/2014 9:20:07 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: =)
[7/8/2014 9:20:33 PM] Jack W.: Lol you're the kid who got all my accounts banned
[7/8/2014 9:20:34 PM] Jack W.: Right
[7/8/2014 9:20:39 PM] Jack W.: That's why
[7/8/2014 9:20:57 PM] Jack W.: Chargebacks take weeks
[7/8/2014 9:20:59 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: I didn't get all your accounts banned. I completed multiple orders for you.
[7/8/2014 9:21:06 PM] Jack W.: I called them up right away
[7/8/2014 9:21:11 PM] Jack W.: They said they'd do it
[7/8/2014 9:21:12 PM] Jack W.: It takes weeks
[7/8/2014 9:21:14 PM] Jack W.: Yeah, and all of the accounts I ordered from you got banned all on the same date
[7/8/2014 9:21:22 PM] Jack W.: Not any of the other ones
[7/8/2014 9:21:23 PM] Jack W.: Same method
[7/8/2014 9:21:24 PM] Jack W.: Same time
[7/8/2014 9:21:37 PM] Jack W.: Coincidence? I think nto
[7/8/2014 9:21:48 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: Yeah right. That's why you decided to chargeback a month after?
[7/8/2014 9:21:51 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: seems legit
[7/8/2014 9:21:53 PM] Jack W.: lol
[7/8/2014 9:21:54 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: you're bullshitting
[7/8/2014 9:22:00 PM] Jack W.: I can upload an email proof
[7/8/2014 9:22:28 PM] Jack W.: And I have proof I made that call right after they were banned
[7/8/2014 9:22:28 PM] Jack W.: SO
[7/8/2014 9:22:28 PM] Jack W.: Yea
[7/8/2014 9:22:47 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: No you're bullshitting and that is still no reason to chargeback
[7/8/2014 9:23:05 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: You will get banned if you wont refund me
[7/8/2014 9:23:16 PM] Jack W.: Yeah, not sure about that
[7/8/2014 9:23:37 PM] Jack W.: Makes no sense to chargeback a measly $57 if there wasn't a reason when I have history
[7/8/2014 9:23:42 PM] Jack W.: With paying with paypal without problems
[7/8/2014 9:23:48 PM] Jack W.: Yohojo, etc
[7/8/2014 9:23:51 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: [Tuesday, July 8, 2014 12:19 PM] [YoHoJo]: 
 
<<< Looking into it
idkwtf his post is even saying
it's kind of funny
[7/8/2014 9:23:57 PM] Jack W.: for LOTS more
[7/8/2014 9:23:58 PM] Jack W.: lol
[7/8/2014 9:24:01 PM] Jack W.: put him in a group chat
[7/8/2014 9:24:11 PM] Jack W.: I've sent him a lot more than $57
[7/8/2014 9:24:23 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: Refund me then, ok?
[7/8/2014 9:24:34 PM] Jack W.: If you remake my accounts, sure
[7/8/2014 9:24:52 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: No? I completed your accounts and there was no issue, if there was why didn't you contact me?
[7/8/2014 9:25:00 PM] Jack W.: Sec
[7/8/2014 9:25:31 PM] Jack W.: Probably because you were banned
[7/8/2014 9:25:32 PM] Jack W.: lol
[7/8/2014 9:25:39 PM] Jack W.: How the fuck am I supposed to contact you if you're banned
[7/8/2014 9:25:41 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: I was banned? Are you serious?
[7/8/2014 9:25:51 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: I was never banned, you dumbfuck.
[7/8/2014 9:26:07 PM] Jack W.: lol
[7/8/2014 9:26:08 PM] Jack W.: let me linky ou
[7/8/2014 9:26:17 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: You don't even make sense. LOL
[7/8/2014 9:26:18 PM] Jack W.: Jay Cutler is banned on osbot
[7/8/2014 9:26:26 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: thats not me?
[7/8/2014 9:26:37 PM] Jack W.: who are you on osbot
[7/8/2014 9:26:41 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: TARGET
[7/8/2014 9:26:52 PM] Jack W.: 325i?
[7/8/2014 9:26:55 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: Yes!
[7/8/2014 9:27:05 PM] Jack W.: Well
[7/8/2014 9:27:12 PM] Jack W.: that's why you weren't contacted lol
[7/8/2014 9:27:31 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: Umm, whats the reason I wasn't contacted?
[7/8/2014 9:27:40 PM] Jack W.: Thought you were jay cutler
[7/8/2014 9:27:41 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: You didn't state any reason
[7/8/2014 9:27:44 PM] Jack W.: he's done services for me too
[7/8/2014 9:27:46 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: I AM NOT HIM
[7/8/2014 9:27:47 PM] Jack W.: the same job
[7/8/2014 9:27:48 PM] Jack W.: same price
[7/8/2014 9:27:50 PM] Jack W.: well i thought you were
[7/8/2014 9:27:52 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: Your mistake.
[7/8/2014 9:27:59 PM] Jack W.: well yes
[7/8/2014 9:28:02 PM] Jack W.: but you got my accounts banned
[7/8/2014 9:28:07 PM] Jack W.: so it's still your problem
[7/8/2014 9:28:25 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: I didn't get any of your accounts banned. Do you have any proof to support those false claims?
[7/8/2014 9:28:38 PM] Jack W.: Yep
[7/8/2014 9:28:39 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: That it was my fault?
[7/8/2014 9:28:49 PM] Jack W.: All of the accounts that were levelled by you got banned on the same day
[7/8/2014 9:28:57 PM] Jack W.: I have proof of that
[7/8/2014 9:29:05 PM] Jack W.: I have proof that I called up my card company the next day
[7/8/2014 9:29:08 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: Probably because you botted on them.
[7/8/2014 9:29:13 PM] Jack W.: I have proof that other accounts didn't get banned
[7/8/2014 9:29:14 PM] Jack W.: lol
[7/8/2014 9:29:16 PM] Jack W.: Yes
[7/8/2014 9:29:20 PM] Jack W.: But that's not how botting works
[7/8/2014 9:29:23 PM] Jack W.: Only your accounts got banned
[7/8/2014 9:29:25 PM] Jack W.: Nothing else
[7/8/2014 9:30:45 PM] Jack W.: If it's bannable to chargeback for that then whatever
[7/8/2014 9:31:27 PM] 'Target  [200+ Feedbacks]: You don't make any sense at all.
[7/8/2014 9:31:54 PM] Jack W.: ok

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/facepalm. I only replace the account IF the account gets banned during my service. Not if you get banned with it after.

They weren't banned during my service and the account(s) were succesfully completed (only like 3 got banned during the service but I refunded you in PayPal cash for that [like $18,72])

Oh and by the way, copy/pasted skype logs are not valid evidence, I could've shown this info to YoHoJo aswell. 

 

 

Post the whole Skype log in a spoiler, so it won't take a entire reply and a book of information.

Without Skype logs this dispute is going to be a hard one.

Neither has @Flexx posted the proof that yohojo was asking for.

Like I said, I can show any moderator the skype logs via Teamviewer because it's quite long to be honest. It'll take me hours to screenshot the chat logs.

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Part of chat, trade with the first $20 chargeback is in this convo too, I done 4 accounts 1-65 thieving for him for $20

cba to post more im already busy with this for an hour now.. if a mod needs to see more( because there is more proof) just ask me.

 

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And there is some confusing about the $27,12 order I was supposed to do 5 accounts, I completed 2 accounts quite quickly, the other 3 were keep getting banned so I decided to refund him his cash for that.( $18,72)

More skype conversation:

 

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From what I see here, Flexx ordered account creation and power leveling and acknowledged that the service was botted. The Sellers terms of service clearly state he is not responsible for bans. However, he states if it is banned while he is doing the order, he will replace the account. Which is very fair.

 

@Flexx your accounts were banned after the order was done, when they were in your possession. How can you prove it was not you who had gotten them banned? You needed 65 theiving to bot sorc garden, which is a very highly monitored area with a high ban rate. If you botted on them which resulted in them being banned, it is not the users fault and the charge back was not justified.

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From what I see here, Flexx ordered account creation and power leveling and acknowledged that the service was botted. The Sellers terms of service clearly state he is not responsible for bans. However, he states if it is banned while he is doing the order, he will replace the account. Which is very fair.

 

@Flexx your accounts were banned after the order was done, when they were in your possession. How can you prove it was not you who had gotten them banned? You needed 65 theiving to bot sorc garden, which is a very highly monitored area with a high ban rate. If you botted on them which resulted in them being banned, it is not the users fault and the charge back was not justified.

 

The way the accounts were banned. They all got banned at the exact same time.

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The way the accounts were banned. They all got banned at the exact same time.

I'm sorry but you saying that is not proof. That is only speculation. The accounts were banned in your control. Sorce garden is a highly watched area and you could have been caught in a ban sweep. Once the accounts were given to you they were no longer in his control.

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This literally makes me want to swallow glass but I'll pay him back as soon as I get better internet (On vacation in China) which should be soon. Currently I can't access my PayPal

 

And just because I'm agreeing to do this doesn't mean I'm going back on my statements. I know something funky went on here, but it looks like I have no choice.

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This literally makes me want to swallow glass but I'll pay him back as soon as I get better internet (On vacation in China) which should be soon. Currently I can't access my PayPal

 

And just because I'm agreeing to do this doesn't mean I'm going back on my statements. I know something funky went on here, but it looks like I have no choice.

But what if you decide to chargeback in a few months again? You already chargedback twice, I don't know if I can still trust you with that :(

I much prefer if the refund is in RSGP. Anyway thanks and please contact me as soon as you want to pay me back.

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This literally makes me want to swallow glass but I'll pay him back as soon as I get better internet (On vacation in China) which should be soon. Currently I can't access my PayPal

 

And just because I'm agreeing to do this doesn't mean I'm going back on my statements. I know something funky went on here, but it looks like I have no choice.

 

I'm glad to hear you are saying you will refund him. However, if you are in china how have you posted from a 4G mobile phone IP in the US?

 

@Flexx

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My data plan is still from the U.S. and I;m using interview for this message (and it's awful)

 

That is not how it works, if you had cingular (AT&T) and were roaming in China it would use their cell towers, and a Chinese IP. It does not use a IP in the US whilst in China. Even when I go over to another state, my T-Mobile IP will switch to use that states IP and cell towers. What I'm getting at is you are lying.

 

Even right now, you are posting on a broadband IP from Optimum which is your home IP which I can see you've posted a lot on before dating all the way back to the 12th of April, 2014.

 

Your mistake was the first post I quoted was from your home IP then you tried to use the chinese proxy.

 

Please stop lying about your where abouts and making excuses. You must refund this user or you will be banned.

 

@Flexx

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That is not how it works, if you had cingular (AT&T) and were roaming in China it would use their cell towers, and a Chinese IP. It does not use a IP in the US whilst in China. Even when I go over to another state, my T-Mobile IP will switch to use that states IP and cell towers. What I'm getting at is you are lying.

 

Even right now, you are posting on a broadband IP from Optimum which is your home IP which I can see you've posted a lot on before dating all the way back to the 12th of April, 2014.

 

Your mistake was the first post I quoted was from your home IP then you tried to use the chinese proxy.

 

Please stop lying about your where abouts and making excuses. You must refund this user or you will be banned.

 

@Flexx

You're stupid. PM me your Skype info and I will video chat because you don't have the complexity to understand text.

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