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[Poll] Would you be more likely to try scripting yourself if there were more Open Source scripts?

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Open source will give an idea of how scripts should be structured and how certain methods should be created to anyone with programming experience.

 

This is exactly what I was thinking, but that's because I do have programming experience. I am not super familiar with java nor the api, but I'd be willing to sit down and learn the basics, be comfortable writing simple stuff, but afterwords see examples of how more complicated tasks can be worked efficiently, which just helps me learn more, and it's a cycle.

 

Obviously there's a general competency qualification, but open source scripts, or even just open source methods of a bunch of little things that most scripts use, could really make the difference.

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I think it would help a lot for new scripters. I think there is a big problem with the current accepted scripters

applications. I think it clearly states that the scripts they apply with should be open source, but when I look through

the accepted scripters applications, the scripts that people applied with have in some cases been deleted, or simply

aren't open source. Some of them also use methods from their own API which they don't even include in their application.

I think people should be able to see, what the community considers "good" scripts from the scripters who have been accepted,

so they will be able to study the scripts and use them as guidelines.

 

EDIT: Looking through the accepted scripters applications again, I realize that most of them actually do live up to the guidelines,

but some of them still doesn't.

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I believe if you truly wanted to learn scripting/programming,  the best way is to youtube search/newboston or google search and write a script from scratch without any reference.With open source available people will just tend to copy and paste. Its human nature and even actual programmers do it.

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I believe if you truly wanted to learn scripting/programming,  the best way is to youtube search/newboston or google search and write a script from scratch without any reference.With open source available people will just tend to copy and paste. Its human nature and even actual programmers do it.

I strongly advise against TheNewBoston. Though what he's teaching may work, it's bad practice, especially if you plan on working on a team with other programmers. He also "teaches" just how to do something, but almost never the "why".
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I believe if you truly wanted to learn scripting/programming,  the best way is to youtube search/newboston or google search and write a script from scratch without any reference.With open source available people will just tend to copy and paste. Its human nature and even actual programmers do it.

I agree and disagree. Open source will give an idea of how scripts should be structured and how certain methods should be created to anyone with programming experience. However, a newbie is probably going to copy and paste before trying to understand what the code means.

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Thanks for all the replies, guys.

 

Open source will give an idea of how scripts should be structured and how certain methods should be created to anyone with programming experience.

 

This is exactly what I was thinking, but that's because I do have programming experience. I am not super familiar with java nor the api, but I'd be willing to sit down and learn the basics, be comfortable writing simple stuff, but afterwords see examples of how more complicated tasks can be worked efficiently, which just helps me learn more, and it's a cycle.

 

Obviously there's a general competency qualification, but open source scripts, or even just open source methods of a bunch of little things that most scripts use, could really make the difference.

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Thanks for all the replies, guys.

 

 

This is exactly what I was thinking, but that's because I do have programming experience. I am not super familiar with java nor the api, but I'd be willing to sit down and learn the basics, be comfortable writing simple stuff, but afterwords see examples of how more complicated tasks can be worked efficiently, which just helps me learn more, and it's a cycle.

 

Obviously there's a general competency qualification, but open source scripts, or even just open source methods of a bunch of little things that most scripts use.

 

I'm in the exact same position

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Thanks for all the replies, guys.

 

 

This is exactly what I was thinking, but that's because I do have programming experience. I am not super familiar with java nor the api, but I'd be willing to sit down and learn the basics, be comfortable writing simple stuff, but afterwords see examples of how more complicated tasks can be worked efficiently, which just helps me learn more, and it's a cycle.

 

Obviously there's a general competency qualification, but open source scripts, or even just open source methods of a bunch of little things that most scripts use, could really make the difference.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Plenty of really good resources out the to learn Java with but I love to look at open source scripts in order to analyse structure :)

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Wrong, because most "scripters" here do not know the language fairly well and were not properly educated in terms of proper conventional programming and practices.

Says the person who thinks "instance variable" is not correct terminology.

Also you talk all this shit, but never have shown any code of your own. How about we put you on the other end of the knife.

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Says the person who thinks "instance variable" is not correct terminology.

Also you talk all this shit, but never have shown any code of your own. How about we put you on the other end of the knife.

Agreed.

Would love to see some code as well. I requested this before when you tried to critique my framework, but you ran away.

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I know that when I started to write scripts years ago, there was a lot of open source content that I looked at to help me (this was on another botting client). I would agree that having open source scripts may indeed help newcomers get into programming and writing scripts.

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I only recently got rid of my open source scripts (when I switched personal websites), but I haven't felt the urge to add them back anytime soon because no one was viewing them in the first place. I would much rather help anyone who posts specific questions in the scripting help section or messages myself directly rather then have them try and analyze my code and copy it without knowing why it works. I also use some unneeded practices such as the singleton design pattern that aren't necessarily required for tribot that someone might see in my code and think that is the correct and only way and then start to preach that themselves. 

I see some people are interested in structure rather than how to do specific things and I've already posted the framework I use in my scripts.

To sum things up, I would rather see people post specific questions on how to do something or ask for code critique rather than see them try and learn aimlessly from open source.

Back in my day, we didn't have open source scripts to learn from!

 

Thought I'd give a reply since you keep bumping this :P

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I only recently got rid of my open source scripts (when I switched personal websites), but I haven't felt the urge to add them back anytime soon because no one was viewing them in the first place. I would much rather help anyone who posts specific questions in the scripting help section or messages myself directly rather then have them try and analyze my code and copy it without knowing why it works. I also use some unneeded practices such as the singleton design pattern that aren't necessarily required for tribot that someone might see in my code and think that is the correct and only way and then start to preach that themselves. 

I see some people are interested in structure rather than how to do specific things and I've already posted the framework I use in my scripts.

To sum things up, I would rather see people post specific questions on how to do something or ask for code critique rather than see them try and learn aimlessly from open source.

Back in my day, we didn't have open source scripts to learn from!

 

Thought I'd give a reply since you keep bumping this :P

Great points, thanks for the response!

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I have always been interested in scripting but never reslly got around to fully committing. The first thing I learned was from analyzing an open source woodcutter on PB yesrs ago and understanding what everything meant and why it worked. I would definitely use other open source scripts to try and understand why something I dont understand works.

For example, I would gladly take a look at someone open source cow killer and cowhide banker.

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