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15 Y/O Acc just banned after two days of botting, how?

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How in the fucking world is my 15 year old account banned after two days of botting? Botting was always done on my watch ( to ensure no errors, communication with people) AND under 6 hours. I only used the script DaxHunter.

 

Is there any good scripts out there anymore? I remember I would bot accs to like fucking eight 99s with no problem. Or is it the client?

 

Doesn't make any god damn sense. 

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11 minutes ago, fm0909 said:

How in the fucking world is my 15 year old account banned after two days of botting? Botting was always done on my watch ( to ensure no errors, communication with people) AND under 6 hours. I only used the script DaxHunter.

 

Is there any good scripts out there anymore? I remember I would bot accs to like fucking eight 99s with no problem. Or is it the client?

 

Doesn't make any god damn sense. 

What were you hunting?

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14 minutes ago, Jab said:

What were you hunting?

Red chins, always resetting the bot and trap placements. Even inserted my own clicks in there and would monitor the bot. I'm experienced with this shit. I remember when the first fkn bot came out lol. I only hunted about 700 red chins until I was banned. I did falconry to 70. It's a shame with these scripts - I feel like it's a monopoly situation. There's only one or two OK scripts for each skill I've found so far. I think the falconry was very buggy, it would click on trees occasionally and I even saw it bury a bone or two. There was no shift drop option, so thats very bot-like in itself with right click then scrolling to the "Drop" Option. I would figure bot makers would be extra secure and safe when they do this shit - especially with a skill like Hunter. Either way, I don't see how I could've been detected that quickly unless it had to do with the client - or this script is severely vulnerable. This account was the first one I made when I signed into RS on a shit desktop at the age of like 7. Either way, my fault for putting it at risk. But that still leads me to the question of how the fuck did that happen? 

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1 minute ago, fm0909 said:

Red chins, always resetting the bot and trap placements. Even inserted my own clicks in there and would monitor the bot. I'm experienced with this shit. I remember when the first fkn bot came out lol. I only hunted about 700 red chins until I was banned. I did falconry to 70. It's a shame with these scripts - I feel like it's a monopoly situation. There's only one or two OK scripts for each skill I've found so far. I think the falconry was very buggy, it would click on trees occasionally and I even saw it bury a bone or two. There was no shift drop option, so thats very bot-like in itself with right click then scrolling to the "Drop" Option. I would figure bot makers would be extra secure and safe when they do this shit - especially with a skill like Hunter. Either way, I don't see how I could've been detected that quickly unless it had to do with the client - or this script is severely vulnerable. This account was the first one I made when I signed into RS on a shit desktop at the age of like 7. Either way, my fault for putting it at risk. But that still leads me to the question of how the fuck did that happen? 

I've gotten around 15-20 accounts to 99 hunter with daxhunter, it's not the script thats forsure. Either your ip is flagged or you got reported.

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4 minutes ago, Jab said:

I've gotten around 15-20 accounts to 99 hunter with daxhunter, it's not the script thats forsure. Either your ip is flagged or you got reported.

Definitely could've gotten reported when it got stuck at falcons for about 6 hours. You used red chin with dax hunter? It doesn't seem all as protected as it cracks itself out to be. Box traps were very glitchy.

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Oh I don't know.. maybe because you botted?

Why are people still surprised when they get banned when they've botted. There is no 100% method to keep your account safe, that should be simple plain common knowledge already.

There are multiple factors that led to your ban, nobody knows for sure.

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24 minutes ago, theholyone said:

Oh I don't know.. maybe because you botted?

Why are people still surprised when they get banned when they've botted. There is no 100% method to keep your account safe, that should be simple plain common knowledge already.

There are multiple factors that led to your ban, nobody knows for sure.

 

OP is obviously annoyed at this outcome, and he probably should be more prepared for such events (they do occur, as we see), but you're attacking him based on assumptions that you're making up. He's just asking for some help to prevent bans. He's not asking for a way to never get banned. You're replying to a fictional character.

 

Are you familiar with the mathematical concept of probability? Are you familiar with emotional reactions to events that are assumed to be improbable?

 

For example, a lot of people go to casinos knowing they can win some money, yet they are somehow surprised they won a few hands of cards, or maybe a low-tier slot machine jackpot? 

Are these events possible? duh. Are they astronomically improbable? No, it's not like they win millions of dollars. Are they still surprised? Yeah, assuming they are reasonable people.

 

I literally have f2p woodcutters that have lasted longer than what OP is reporting. You don't find that strange at all?

 

Maybe cool your role in the future, because you should learn eventually that your interpretation of "common knowledge" is nonsense.

 

 

How in the fucking world is my 15 year old account banned after two days of botting? Botting was always done on my watch ( to ensure no errors, communication with people) AND under 6 hours. I only used the script DaxHunter.

 

Is there any good scripts out there anymore? I remember I would bot accs to like fucking eight 99s with no problem. Or is it the client?

 

Doesn't make any god damn sense. 

 

To help answer your question OP, the client is not detected. You had some bad luck. It happens unfortunately. Jagex's anti-bot is complex and tricky. There is no way to completely understand why you were banned. Hunter is generally a hot area for bots, and a little more risky than other methods. With that being said, a lot of people find success in it, with the exact same script as you.

You can't base your information off of a single event. This is 1 account, 1 bot, 1 instance. 

 

As far as antiban goes, Trilez suggests not messing with the bot as it goes. The sudden shift of input style and such contrasts and shows a clear distinction between two people. I personally have never found this convincing. While I make scripts and test, I basically have to mess with the client while my scripts are running all the time. I almost never get banned.

 

As others have said, it could be your IP if you botted a lot on it. Maybe other factors. The only way to find out is to keep trying, unfortunately. There's only so much information you can gather from a single ban. Shit, we've all went through dozens, sometimes hundreds and still don't know for sure.

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1 hour ago, wastedbro said:

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Unless I skipped or mis-read some parts of his post, nowhere does he ask how to prevent ban, all i've read is him accusing the script writer for that specific script, as well as other script writers in a general sense, and the client.

I have no problem with people venting that they've been banned, hell I get pretty upset when I get banned, but I know the risk I took and I own up to my risk instead of finding other people to blame. ( Unless of course it's the clients fault... break, firewall profiles disappearing..)

 

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2 hours ago, auryzas242 said:

15 year old account ? rs has been out for 5 years max lol

Acc was made in 2002,

4 hours ago, wastedbro said:

 

 

As far as antiban goes, Trilez suggests not messing with the bot as it goes. The sudden shift of input style and such contrasts and shows a clear distinction between two people. I personally have never found this convincing. While I make scripts and test, I basically have to mess with the client while my scripts are running all the time. I almost never get banned.

 

As others have said, it could be your IP if you botted a lot on it. Maybe other factors. The only way to find out is to keep trying, unfortunately. There's only so much information you can gather from a single ban. Shit, we've all went through dozens, sometimes hundreds and still don't know for sure.

How so? If you use different bots some have shift drop some dont, cant they compare that to previous playstyles and boom? I would like to do some heavy research on their system

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5 hours ago, MalleDK said:

Honestly I would say you either has an IP-address flagged already, or you were just extremely unlucky. I'm still yet to get banned with DaxHunter (recently switched to TRiBot), and I'm sitting on 6 fresh hunter accounts all doing chins so far.

Okay, so if I wanted to continue using it - I would need to change IPS since this is probably flagged now. Any easy way to go about doing this? I have another account I'd like to try this on and see what happens.

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1 minute ago, fm0909 said:

Acc was made in 2002,

How so? If you use different bots some have shift drop some dont, cant they compare that to previous playstyles and boom? I would like to do some heavy research on their system

 

It's a lot more complex than that. If Jagex started banning every account that used more than 1 dropping method, every server would be empty.

It's a lot more algorithmic based on large amounts of data. For Jagex, it's like building a puzzle. They can't see the whole picture by analyzing one piece. But after putting together a lot of pieces, they can make an educated "guess". That's the best way I can explain it. Of course this is all calculated with their technology. This, of course, refers to automatic banning.

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